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139
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Career
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1:03:30
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Getting fired was the best thing for my career
With
Marcus Bell
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Product lead
About this episode
Marcus got let go on a Tuesday over a twelve-minute call. A year later he was running the team that replaced his old one. This is how it actually happened.
What we talk about
Marcus kept a note on his phone from the day he was let go, and he reads it to us. He talks about the three months he didn't tell anyone, the side project that got him noticed, and walking back into a meeting with his old manager.
Chapters
00:00 Cold open
02:50 The twelve-minute call
12:30 Three months of silence
26:15 The side project
41:00 Getting hired to run the new team
55:20 What he'd tell himself that Tuesday
Mentioned in this episode
Marcus's newsletter on product teams
Designing Your Life by Bill Burnett and Dave Evans
