About this episode
Jonah's first record was written over ten years. The second had a deadline. On pressure, expectations, and writing when nobody is waiting for you anymore.
What we talk about
Jonah threw out a full album's worth of demos before the label heard any of them. We get into what changed when songwriting became a job, the two songs he wrote in a hotel bathroom, and how he got his first-record ear back.
Chapters
00:00 Cold open
05:02 Ten years for album one
18:30 Signing and the clock starting
33:15 The demos he deleted
52:40 Writing on tour
1:04:12 Finishing anyway
Mentioned in this episode
Jonah's new record
Bird by Bird by Anne Lamott
The voice memo app he writes everything in



